FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
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FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Mes 5 FAL's d'Hollande...
Très rare!
Gauche= par Artillerie Inrichtingen droite= par FN
T= TORMENTEERPROEF
Unique, extra safety
Très rare!
Gauche= par Artillerie Inrichtingen droite= par FN
T= TORMENTEERPROEF
Unique, extra safety
joeplf- Membre averti
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Ben mon vieux ...
Ils ont l'air d'être particulièrement bichonnés, ceux-là ...!
Y a pas à dire, ils sont entre de bonnes mains ! Félicitations !
A+
Ils ont l'air d'être particulièrement bichonnés, ceux-là ...!
Y a pas à dire, ils sont entre de bonnes mains ! Félicitations !
A+
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Superbes ! Je suis fan.
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Superbe modèles,suis sous le charme...moi aussi fan de Fal, voici le miens mais un Autrichien.
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
très beaux exemplaires !
www.bigache.fr
Autorisation de fabrication et de commerce de matériels de guerre,
catégorie A1, A2 et B.
Déclaration commerce armes et munitions du 11 juin 2009.
N°49
Autorisation de fabrication et de commerce de matériels de guerre,
catégorie A1, A2 et B.
Déclaration commerce armes et munitions du 11 juin 2009.
N°49
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
FAL's, you got to love'm
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Tu pousses le bouchon un peu loin!
Prochain sujet : tes 14 SAFN?
J'attends.
Prochain sujet : tes 14 SAFN?
J'attends.
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Tu pousses le bouchon un peu loin!
Prochain sujet : tes 14 SAFN?
J'attends.
Hmm, 14 CAL's et FNC's?
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
"Laudamus veteres sed nostris utimur annis "
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Je me dis que si tu as 5 FAL, tu as peut-être davantage de SAFN.joeplf a écrit:Tu pousses le bouchon un peu loin!
Prochain sujet : tes 14 SAFN?
J'attends.
Hmm, 14 CAL's et FNC's?
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Baccardi a écrit:J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
Variante sniper
Serial?
No stopblock in this case... Note the slidingrails and key.
Note the brass piece on the left
below
You can slide it in like this.
K marking on the stock, i have seen them many times...
Nearly no milling marks on the receiver.
Sight protection, white paint, red loctide
T marking, so AI assembled this one...
Serialised barrel, typical for AI barrels. No Belgian proofmark!
Using the bipod will NOT help you to shoot tighter groups, i do helps to pick up faster new targets. Below 150m this will not make you miss the target. behind 200m you will start missing since the spreading gous over the 30cm
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Baccardi a écrit:J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
variant "korps mariniers/naval"
Note the slim pistolgrips!
Factory installed swivel. I had some spare stocks, all had the hardware mounted.
Dutch Artillerie inrichtingen barrel= T stamp = tormenteerproofstamp
The flashider markings
The Dutch crest. Hup Holland Hup:D
All Dutch FAL's have the "R" marking on there selectors.
My set was an "A" batch.
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Baccardi a écrit:J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
Variant FAL normal, composer par Artillerie Inrichtingen. Canon aussi...
The first FAL is serial 59579. The most parts were made by FN but the barrel is made by AI. Artillerie Inrichtingen in Zaandam is a factory that came in trouble after the AR10 rifle was not adopted. To keep'm going the were allowed to assemble the FAL's.
AI FAL's are easy to recognice. The DON'T have Belgian proofhouse stamps. They have the "T" stamps. T stands for "tormenteer". Means, testfired with an overpressured round in the AI facility.
Some 50% were made by FN, 50% by AI
Note the red paint.
The "T" tormenteer marking, typical AI...
Dutch FAL's have a special hood to protect the front sight. All FAL's i have observed have sights with white markings. Some have red sealingpaint on the screws to keep'm locked.
The Dutch army has fixed sights and they SUCK. The hole is to narrow to pick up targets or shoot at low light conditions.
Sometimes red sealingpaint is seen on the screws.
Most locks have a digit on'm
Note the special cut in the Dutch lugs, it is also used in there FALO
The shiny dustcover. No markings observed.
Holland uses a special stock. The buttplate makes is hard for lefties to carry a sling...
I have observed "K" "W" "5" and some other markings near the screw.
Some stocks have a classic datestamp under the buttplate.
The lower is also serialised. The Belgian Army lower are not.
So is the upper, bolt, carrier and AI barrels. FN barrels are NOT serialised.
Note the "T" stamp on carrier and bolt.
Spit-shiny handguards, very tactial ; ) Must be fun in the wintercold and wet hands. Must be fun when fired red hot...
Note the gasregulatorstop, rivetted on the HG
All the AI assambled FAL's have faint Dutch crest. All FN assambled FAL have a neat deep logo!
The bipod has serials on every part. I never saw a matching gunserial in combination with the bipod serial. It is a quickdetachable bipod. They were removed soon since recruts sitted on there fals to keep there ass dry. You need to bend the pods a bit to get'm over both the metal and fiber HG's
Holland has a wide boltrelease and magrelease. Sportshooters love'm. This is the best invention on the FN fal's out there.
Milled receiver.
T on the barrel&chamber
Note the serial on the barrel
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Variant, 100% assemble par FN
The biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd variant is the Belgian proofhouse stamps. The Belgian Proofhouse places stamps on the upperreceiver, barrel, bolt and carrier. You finde the proofhouse here:
http://www.bancdepreuves.be/nl/accueil.asp
So, the AI FAL's came in in pieces in Holland and never left it. They proofed themself with highpressure rounds in Zaandam.
This FAL was assembled in Belgium, proofed in Liege and presented to the acceptation officer.
A typical proofhouse stamp has the "perron" = little statue in Liege and a prefix "H" to identify the guy who did the proofing.
Note both different stamps!
Check out the barrel alignement. I was told the digit 4 means a type 4 ring to get the right headspace...
The stamp on the stock, near the vise "W"
Nice wood and flames!
Front of the carrier "2"
Serialised + proofed.
Like new...
Note the digit on the lock
At the upper there is a "JS" stamp
The typicla Dutch sighthood. I heard some fakes are around!
The Belgian made barrels have much more signs and proofs on'm as the AI barrels.
Nitro tested ...
And more signs
I love you!
The logo is much deeper as the AI FAL's, coïncidence?
The milling marks are also deeper!
The FN made FAL's carry 4 serials. upper/lower/bolt/carrier
The flashider has one digit...
The metal ring retains riflegrenades. It prevents'm to fall off. The diameter is 22mm and is NATO approved. All NATO grenades have the same talediameter.
Bipodserilisation. All over!!! Never matching...
The biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd variant is the Belgian proofhouse stamps. The Belgian Proofhouse places stamps on the upperreceiver, barrel, bolt and carrier. You finde the proofhouse here:
http://www.bancdepreuves.be/nl/accueil.asp
So, the AI FAL's came in in pieces in Holland and never left it. They proofed themself with highpressure rounds in Zaandam.
This FAL was assembled in Belgium, proofed in Liege and presented to the acceptation officer.
A typical proofhouse stamp has the "perron" = little statue in Liege and a prefix "H" to identify the guy who did the proofing.
Note both different stamps!
Check out the barrel alignement. I was told the digit 4 means a type 4 ring to get the right headspace...
The stamp on the stock, near the vise "W"
Nice wood and flames!
Front of the carrier "2"
Serialised + proofed.
Like new...
Note the digit on the lock
At the upper there is a "JS" stamp
The typicla Dutch sighthood. I heard some fakes are around!
The Belgian made barrels have much more signs and proofs on'm as the AI barrels.
Nitro tested ...
And more signs
I love you!
The logo is much deeper as the AI FAL's, coïncidence?
The milling marks are also deeper!
The FN made FAL's carry 4 serials. upper/lower/bolt/carrier
The flashider has one digit...
The metal ring retains riflegrenades. It prevents'm to fall off. The diameter is 22mm and is NATO approved. All NATO grenades have the same talediameter.
Bipodserilisation. All over!!! Never matching...
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Variante Heavy Barrel FALO
Digits nears the screw, very common at Dutch stocks.
The Dutch FALO has a specific stock and buttplate. It can pivot to make a shoulderrest. If you fold it, the lowest point hits the ground.
Extra wide boltrelease, magrelease and in the corner you see the arsenals BW 8_93 stamp. So in 1993 it had a full service. I have observed that Dutch FAL's that never had a service, lacks mostly those red sealingpaint...
Did you see the Dutch mag has that same thick paint. You can pick'm out of a box with 100 mags by just looking at the colors...
The bolt carrier has some strange wear on the right side. The other regular FAL's don't have it.
Inspection stamps...
NO extra safety on the firingpin!
Both bolt and carrier have the serials + Belgian proofstamp off Liége.
The upper also has the "Perron" stamp.
No digit on the lock!
No hooded sight, it has an extra thick earset!
Note the red sealingpaint on the sights to prevent "walking".
The Bipod is not adjustable and swings around like hell.
You have to pince'm to open or close. Rock sollid.
Check out those extra 2 holes in the flashhider.
Adjustable sights, not the fixed para sights.
Small peepsight! Why? it SUCKS!
Serialisation, as usual. Bolt,carrier, upper/lower.
Note the pinhole is missing so you can turn the selector to A...
The typical Dutch coin lugs.
Extra serials on both sides?
All FALO have there carry handle reversed mounted. Due to the heavy barrel, the balanspoint has shifted.
Digits nears the screw, very common at Dutch stocks.
The Dutch FALO has a specific stock and buttplate. It can pivot to make a shoulderrest. If you fold it, the lowest point hits the ground.
Extra wide boltrelease, magrelease and in the corner you see the arsenals BW 8_93 stamp. So in 1993 it had a full service. I have observed that Dutch FAL's that never had a service, lacks mostly those red sealingpaint...
Did you see the Dutch mag has that same thick paint. You can pick'm out of a box with 100 mags by just looking at the colors...
The bolt carrier has some strange wear on the right side. The other regular FAL's don't have it.
Inspection stamps...
NO extra safety on the firingpin!
Both bolt and carrier have the serials + Belgian proofstamp off Liége.
The upper also has the "Perron" stamp.
No digit on the lock!
No hooded sight, it has an extra thick earset!
Note the red sealingpaint on the sights to prevent "walking".
The Bipod is not adjustable and swings around like hell.
You have to pince'm to open or close. Rock sollid.
Check out those extra 2 holes in the flashhider.
Adjustable sights, not the fixed para sights.
Small peepsight! Why? it SUCKS!
Serialisation, as usual. Bolt,carrier, upper/lower.
Note the pinhole is missing so you can turn the selector to A...
The typical Dutch coin lugs.
Extra serials on both sides?
All FALO have there carry handle reversed mounted. Due to the heavy barrel, the balanspoint has shifted.
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Baccardi a écrit:J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
Alors, contante?
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
joeplf a écrit:Baccardi a écrit:J'avais manqué ce sujet
Bin dis-donc...
On en redemande, peut-être quelques pièces présentées plus en détail... je sais, j'exagère, il y a déjà un sacré boulot à présenter toutes ces photos, merci
Alors, contante?
euh, tu y as passé des heures
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I could not sleep...
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J'espère que ce n'était pas à cause de moi
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très belles armes - heel mooie wapens!
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
Le poster de l'éclaté, (ou plutôt coupe didactique) sur certaines photos est un original?
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gribouille51 a écrit:Le poster de l'éclaté, (ou plutôt coupe didactique) sur certaines photos est un original?
Toutes est original...
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Re: FN FAL contract Hollande. Sniper, FALO, Korps mariniers, KL
j'ai mal vu ou il y a une minimi derrière?
Magnifique collection
Magnifique collection
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Sauternes a écrit:j'ai mal vu ou il y a une minimi derrière?
Magnifique collection
Correct...
ABL
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